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Season 1, Episode 15: Measuring Executive Compensation: Realizable Pay vs. Compensation Actually Paid

Posted on May 5, 2026: By Ira T. Kay and Mike Kesner
Season 1, Episode 15: Measuring Executive Compensation: Realizable Pay vs. Compensation Actually Paid
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In the latest episode of The Public Company Series Podcast, Doug Chia moderates a conversation with Mike Kesner and Ira Kay, setting the stage for a timely discussion on executive compensation and pay-for-performance alignment.

For nearly two decades, boards have operated within a disclosure framework centered on a single figure: total compensation, as reported in the far-right column of the Summary Compensation Table in annual proxy statements. While this metric has become a focal point for investors, proxy advisors, and other stakeholders, it often provides an incomplete picture of how compensation aligns with company performance.

This episode explores the limitations of that framework and introduces alternative perspectives, including realizable pay and the SEC’s compensation actually paid metric, to better understand how companies can communicate pay outcomes more effectively.

WRITTEN BY Ira T. Kay
Ira is a Managing Partner and founder with over 30 years experience and is one of the nation's foremost experts on executive compensation.
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WRITTEN BY Mike Kesner
Mike has over 40 years of experience assisting compensation committees and senior executives on executive compensation matters, including incentive plan design, succession planning, shareholder relations, and M&A. He is a thought leader and has written several articles on executive compensation.
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